From Chrisley’s to Corrupt Sheriffs: Why Justice Isn't Equal
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In this episode of Need to Know, Dr. Nsenga Burton dives into the controversial pardons of reality TV stars Todd and Julie Chrisley, alongside a corrupt Virginia sheriff, raising critical questions about who truly benefits from America’s justice system.
Dr. Burton exposes the deep inequities that allow the wealthy and well-connected to skirt accountability, while everyday people face harsh penalties for far less serious crimes. From media influence to political favoritism, she unpacks how privilege and proximity to power warp justice. This eye-opening conversation challenges listeners to confront the uncomfortable truths about systemic bias—and why real reform must go beyond headlines.
▶︎ In This Episode
00:00: Introduction and Welcome
00:20: The Hypocrisy of Democracy
00:54: The Chrisley Reality Show Scandal
02:08: Tax Evasion and Its Consequences
03:14: The Unfairness of the Financial System
06:16: Life's Unfair Realities
12:53: Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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A Black Executive Perspective.
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:Now presents need to know with
the award-winning hyphenated Dr.
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:Nsenga Burton.
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:Dr.
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:Burton, what do we need to know?
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:Dr. Nsenga Burtonn:
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:Good afternoon and welcome
to Need To Know with Dr.
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:Nsenga Burton.
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:I am she.
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:I hope that you are having
a wonderful day today.
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:I want to talk to you about the hypocrisy
of this democracy You may have been.
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:Um.
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:Minding your business and drinking
your water as people like to say.
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:Um, uh, yo.
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:That girl, Erica, she
says that on Instagram.
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:Let me give her her credit.
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:Um, but if you have not been doing
that and perhaps you're living under
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:a rock, perhaps you just had so much
going on that you're like, I can't take
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:another second of watching the news.
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:'cause it's just horrible every time.
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:Something you may have missed,
um, is, uh, 40 sevens pardon?
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:Of the Chrisley Reality Show stars.
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:Um, and, uh.
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:Uh, Todd and I'm, I'm blanking on the,
um, the, the mother's name, but the
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:Chrisley family, uh, they went to jail.
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:Um, they were found guilty in Atlanta
and they did everything to evade arrest.
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:They even moved to Nashville so they could
finish filming their film, uh, filming
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:their show, uh, while they, uh, were on
trial before they were on trial and during
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:the, uh, and when they were on trial.
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:But they, uh, basically
defrauded, um, banks.
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:Area banks, they basically will go around
and falsify documentation and get loans,
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:um, and to the tune of $36 million.
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:So this is not like a little sum of money.
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:It's not $3,000, which
they lock people up for.
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:You know, they put people
in jail in Atlanta.
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:I live in Atlanta, by the way.
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:Um, they put people in jail in
Atlanta for writing bad checks.
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:They still do that in 2025.
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:Um, you know, $3 check,
you might go to jail.
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:Um, you know, something happens between
you closing the house and you moving into
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:the house and for whatever reason, bank
account doesn't have any money in it.
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:Whatever.
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:I, I've heard all kinds of
things from people I've known.
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:Um, you know, these things.
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:So when you hear $36 million,
that's not a small sum of money.
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:It's a huge sum of money.
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:And then in addition to that, they
defrauded the I-R-S-I-E did not pay
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:taxes, um, of half a million dollars.
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:So part of being a citizen of the United
States, um, and why I don't complain about
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:paying taxes, even though I do think they
are high, especially my property taxes.
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:If anybody's listening, um, is
because that's a requirement of
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:citizenship, you have to pay taxes.
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:So, um, sometimes you, you know, you
have, you know, fines if you don't pay, if
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:you pay late, all the things can happen.
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:You might have an accountant, which was
my situation, who I thought was filing
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:taxes and did not one year, 'cause he was.
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:Having a moment or something.
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:Um, and then you get that, that letter
in the mail, like, Hey, we noticed you
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:pay your taxes every year, but we don't
have this, uh, is there a problem?
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:You know, things of that nature.
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:So taxes are important.
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:Um, accountant's gone by the way,
but I'm still here, so I still pay
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:taxes and I will pay them until
I go into the ground, I'm sure.
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:Uh, but the point is, um, when you
defraud people of half a million
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:dollars in taxes, the government, what
that does is it falls on other people.
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:Uh, and it falls on people who
actually do pay their taxes.
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:Um, it is very hard to get a
bank loan, um, if you are not
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:a part of the establishment.
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:I'll say that.
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:Um, it is very hard to have a bankruptcy
and then to have to get bank loans,
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:which is why everybody is perplexed.
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:Why 47?
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:Who's had, uh, I think seven
bankruptcies at this point and
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:bankrupted a casino even, which I don't
even know how you do that, but, um.
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:Can continue to get these loans and
get this money and all this stuff.
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:Um, you know, over all these years,
we know all the intersectionality.
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:We know, um, how you know, uh, who you
are matters more than, and then, um,
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:what you do and have done in order,
uh, to get loans, um, from banks.
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:It's just very hard to do in general,
um, especially if you do not have
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:collateral or a ton of money to put up.
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:And so, uh, what the Leys did,
because you know, they're obviously.
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:Faking the funk.
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:Um, and they are, you know, they
call themselves devout Christians.
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:Um, you know, so that's the other thing
that is interesting about this hypocrisy
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:and this democracy, um, how these,
uh, devout Christians are engaging in
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:unrest in, in non Christ-like behavior.
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:Um.
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:And, you know, damning you to hell,
uh, while they're busy, uh, stealing,
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:which is, you know, one of the 10
commandments you're not supposed to steal.
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:But that's just basic stuff.
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:Uh, the point is, is that
they have been pardoned.
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:He also pardoned a, uh, sheriff in
my, um, home state Virginia, uh,
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:who had taken $75,000 in bribes.
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:Um, to either look the other way, to get
rid of evidence, to do things like that.
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:So we think about our criminal justice
system and we think about who's in our
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:employee, and we think about all of
the folks that go to jail, um, over
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:little things, frivolous things, um,
and then people who are over prosecuted.
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:So, 47 is saying that he thinks that
these people were over prosecuted.
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:Well, we know that 47 has an ax to grind
with, uh, Georgia anyway, because he had
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:the greatest chance of going to jail.
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:Um, had they not con made up, um, you
know, this case against Fannie Willis,
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:uh, he would probably, uh, and, uh, be
in jail based on the evidence that they
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:had, which is also a recording of him
asking for, uh, the Secretary of State
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:at the time to, um, find, uh, some votes
for him so that he could win Georgia.
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:All right, so there's a recording of that.
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:Um, so he has an ax to grind
against Atlanta anyway.
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:Um, so of course he would pardon
these two reality stars who have
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:thumbed their noses at, um, not only
the justice system, but also just
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:all the systems that are in place.
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:You know, whether it is lying to
numerous banks, falsifying documentation
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:in order to get loans, allegedly.
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:Um.
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:And or, or not paying their taxes to
the tune of half a million dollars.
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:Uh, and this is all while being on
television, all while, you know,
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:purchasing multimillion dollar
homes, doing all of these things.
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:So it's all very well documented.
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:You don't actually have to, um,
have been seeing it, uh, or living
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:it, I, I would say, to see it.
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:Um, so what I think you need to
know today is that life is not fair.
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:And if you have the expectation.
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:Of fairness.
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:Um, I would say it's also a privilege.
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:The idea that you can even think that life
is fair, like you can be in business for.
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:You know, a decade for yourself
and you cannot get a, a bank
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:loan loan to save your life.
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:You cannot procure a bank loan.
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:You've never had a bankruptcy.
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:You pay all your bills on time.
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:You have money in the bank.
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:You have a steady stream of customers.
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:You can show all of this data 'cause
you have to collect this data to do the
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:application of, um, you know, all of your
on time payments, all of the income that
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:you've had, which you pay out all of the
things and you need this money to scale.
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:This is work I used to do.
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:Almost every single time it was a no
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:yet.
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:And still you have people who
defraud, defraud other people.
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:They defraud banks.
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:They defraud the IRS government
entities, and I promise you those
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:crystals are gonna come out.
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:Land on their feet.
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:I promise you somebody's gonna be
giving them $10 million to do whatever
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:the hell they wanna do with it.
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:Um, despite their colorful,
their colorful past.
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:You know, this is what I think
will happen because this is how
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:it works in the United States.
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:Right.
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:Those who can buy their
way out of things, right?
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:Um, you know, the people who are
aligned with people who are used
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:to buying their way out of things.
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:Um, when you have money and you come for
money, you have more resources people
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:are willing to take a chance for on you.
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:You have co-signers, right?
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:You have people who can say, okay, if
Tony doesn't pay this loan back, I can pay
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:it and you have a great payment history,
so then they'll let you go with it.
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:Um.
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:So I need you to know that
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:not only is life not fair to many,
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:it is for sale.
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:To many as well.
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:Um, and so unfortunately for the
bulk of us, and that's the majority
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:of us, I mean even the white folks
who don't have money, which we don't
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:ever talk about in this country.
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:And then the one person who stood the op
stood the chance to, who actually wrote a
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:book about it and had a great opportunity
to educate and help bring those folks into
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:the fore, has now aligned himself with
a, uh, megalomaniac billionaire Trump.
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:And I don't think he's a billionaire,
but you know, um, as vice president.
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:Right, but even PE white people who don't
have money, and they are the majority
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:in this country of the impoverished, um,
based on numbers alone, this is raw data.
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:This is not per, per, per, uh, this is
not proportion, this is raw numbers.
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:Um, you have the opportunity.
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:Um, to help them get out of poverty
like the rest of us, um, to help those
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:who have their own businesses, um, to
get out of poverty like the rest of us.
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:Um, you defund the SBA, you defund
this agency, you defund that agency
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:and then you turn around and free
people who are criminals and have
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:defrauded these institutions that we
rely on in order to build businesses
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:that do in fact help the economy.
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:All right, so your president keeps telling
you he's a word in economy and economy.
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:Economy.
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:Oh, the tariffs are
gonna hurt a little bit.
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:If you've been to the grocery store,
you see what the tariffs are doing.
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:You've been to the grocery store, you
see how much more your groceries are.
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:I'm gonna, I'm talking
about $3 differences now.
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:$3 times 10, that's $30.
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:That's an extra bill, right?
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:Um, but what I need you to know is that.
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:While people are holding your feet
to the fire and making sure that you
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:do everything correct and having no
empathy for you and giving you little
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:grace for like small, small things.
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:You know, I think about people
who steal stuff outta the grocery
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:store 'cause they are hungry.
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:They're not selling, stealing groceries
and selling them somewhere else.
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:Stealing groceries and eating
them 'cause they are starving.
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:Um, and then you letting somebody
out who's stealing money to
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:the two $36 million from banks.
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:Right.
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:But you know, if somebody went in
and robbed that bank of $3,600,
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:they'd be in jail for 25 years.
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:Right?
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:But you get to go and do this
white collar crime and you get
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:to go and serve a little time.
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:'cause they only got sentenced in 2022.
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:Um, and now you're coming out.
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:And then they have the audacity to
pretend that they were persecuted.
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:We were this overzealous prosecution.
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:How can it be overzealous?
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:It was $36 million proven.
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:$36 million.
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:It's all numbers, it's data.
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:It's traceable.
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:You did it half a
million dollars in taxes.
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:It's traceable.
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:You all know I got a bill the other
day for like a dollar something.
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:There was like a dollar something.
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:The difference between when I paid
the bill and when they did the taxes,
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:uh, the, the interest and what I owed.
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:They can follow that stuff to the t.
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:You better pay that dollar
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:something else is coming after it.
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:All right, so I need you
to know life isn't fair.
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:There are separate rules for
different people in society.
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:Those who have money and are
aligned with people who have money.
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:And I will also say are,
uh, morally bankrupt.
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:Even though they call themselves
devout Christians, uh, seem to win
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:a lot in society and seem to get
the most help and grace and empathy.
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:Um, but it is disgusting to see that
people who are defacto criminals, um,
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:are acting like their case is similar
to someone who is in jail for 30
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:years, over a half an ounce of weed.
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:You're pretending that you're over
prosecuted when you in fact defrauded.
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:I.
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:Banks and the IRS that is disgusting.
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:It is not the same thing.
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:You were not over prosecuted.
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:You are getting hooked up by 47 who's
been prosecuted but never served any
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:time and will not serve any time.
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:And we all know that if any
of us did any of those things,
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:we would be under the jail,
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:under the jail, not in it, not behind
it, not next to it under the jail.
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:So you're just seeing society
play out in real life, right?
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:Those who have helped, those
who have those who have not
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:gotta get it themselves.
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:All right, so thank you
for tuning in today.
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:Make sure you tune in next week
so you can hear from me again.
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:Definitely make sure you check out A
Black Executive Perspective podcast,
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:the awarding podcast award-winning
podcast by Tony and Chris.
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:Um, 'cause they always have
wonderful things to say.
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:They have great, uh, guests and wonderful
topics and make sure that you understand
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:that there is a double standard.
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:The price that you will have
to pay for something much less
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:than what these folks have done.
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:Um, it will be much greater.
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:So don't do it.
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:Have a wonderful day.
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